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Spirk? What Spirk? What is this ‘sexual tension’ of which you speak? I don’t know what you’re talking about. *commence suspicious whistling*
I love how after all these years people still insist that Spock and Kirk are just friends. Guys, I have a best friend. She’s great and I care about her and we talk all the time. If she was injured and put in the hospital, of course I would go see her. Of course I would be happy she was okay. But I would not hold her hand and stare at her like she is the center of the entire freakin’ universe. And she would not tell me how her near-death experience gave her an epiphany about feelings, to be specific, her feelings for me. I would not listen with bated breath and she would not say that’s she’s realized that it’s okay for her to care for me, that she can deal with ‘this simple feeling’ she has for me. We would not do that. Do you know why? Because we are not in love. Because best friends do not act like that. And don’t try to pull the ‘well, they aren’t just friends, they’re BROTHERS!’ card because even the closest siblings do not act like that either. If you actually treat your sibling this way, I’d recommend seeing a therapist. ButwhateverIdigress ANYWHO! The point of this is that, when you see Chapel holding Spock’s hand or Troi holding Riker’s hand while they are injured/resting/whatever, you automatically assume that she loves him and that love may or may not be reciprocated, right? And (don’t deny it, you know it’s true) if either Spock or Kirk was a girl, this scene would also be read by all as a romantic scene. There just wouldn’t be any question about it. So why does the implication behind the scene change when they’re both guys? I’ll give you a hint:
It. Doesn’t.-(x)
ROFL YOU PEOPLE JUST LOVE SHIPPING ANYTHING! Jeezums, just because people are friends doesn’t mean they are sexually attracted to each other. Can two male characters just be friends? Please?
^Missed the point.
Can a male and female character just be friends? Whenever someone has a het crack ship like Hermione/Draco or Christine Chapel/Scotty no one says it’s silly but if it’s a slash ship of any kind it’s immediately treated as a joke.
Because homosexuality is a joke. Right? There can’t be actual characters that are gay right?
^ No one is saying homosexuality is a joke. The bottom line is people just won’t let two males Just Be Friends.
And people won’t let a male and female friendships remain as friends instead of automatically assuming they’re dating.
What’s wrong if SOME people turn it around and do that with same sex friends? Again, you say it isn’t a joke but you sure do treat it like one. You almost come off as defensive. Maybe you think it would “ruin” the relationship as most have said because Kirk and Spock having gay sex somehow would obliterate the beauty of their bond?
I’m not saying ALL men who are friends with other men are gay or something. No one is. This is about Kirk and Spock. Not all slash ships or all shipping in general. It’s about the above image and what it says to the people who see the love between the man and woman but not between the two men because they are men.
You’re free to see it as only friends but it doesn’t work to put people down or try to shame them for seeing a deeper love than that between these two characters. They have a large amount of chemistry and even Gene Roddenberry said he knew what people saw between them and instead of doing what most people do today (tell the fangirls they’re silly for seeing gay) he simply acknowledged it as plausible. Then he went on to create a special word to describe them.
This isn’t just some “lol people will ship ANYTHING” crap you’re trying to make it out to be. This is Kirk and Spock and whether you choose to see it as romantic or platonic is up to you:
But they’re are undeniably in love.
Again: the point of this post is to the people who deny these things using subtle homophobia because they’re only argument against it is that these are two men and neither is a woman. Subtle homophobia is STILL homophobia. And it very much looks like that’s the tactic you’re using.
Because I need to butt my nose into everythingMy main response when people say, “Why can’t two men just be friends?” is: “Why can’t they be anything more than just friends?” How many fictional male friendships have you seen develop into romances? It’s infuriating when other people, upon hearing our interpretations of certain male relationships, pat us on the head condescendingly like we’re spoiled children who are asking for too much, because in reality, our wishes in this regard are almost never fulfilled. We’re not actually turning these relationships romantic; the relationships just keep on being represented heterosexually in the media itself, and yet everyone acts like we’re the ones ruining something. When in reality, all we want is for same-sex relationships that display all the hallmarks of romantic commitment to have the same chance of actual romantic fulfilment, and the same legitimacy, that opposite-sex pairings have.
I HAVE BEEN REBLOGGING PEOPLE’S POSTS ON MY THING LIKE CRAZY TODAY
WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE AND BEING AMAZING
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HOMOPHOBIC THE 1960s WERE.
Nobody would have made Spock and Kirk gay.
Nobody. Not Gene Roddenberry, not Leonard Nimoy, not William Shatner.
Stop it. Ship to your heart’s content, but don’t be stupid enough to think that it was an intended pairing. The only reason the kiss between Kirk and Uhura stayed was because Shatner blew the shot where they didn’t kiss.
Fangirls.
Wow. Are you a condescending a-hole.
Oh, yes, you are SO right. Roddenberry would have never woven homoerotic subtext in his show- or hire a writer known for using homoerotic subtext in his work to write SEVERAL episodes- because Roddenberry would never do anything to upset the dumb masses. He never did anything like have the first interracial kiss, or put a black woman in a prominent role, or weave daring political, social, and occasionally even religious messages into nearly every ‘theme of the week’. Star Trek, and by extension, Roddenberry, were not known for being controversial or groundbreaking in any way. You totally know what you are talking about.
Look, you are allowed to not ship the pairing. That’s okay. But don’t insult the people who do. And don’t you dare treat us like we’re somehow twisting things around because we’re nothing but deranged fangirls who don’t understand anything. It’s all about interpretation. Many people, including myself, interpret Kirk and Spock as having a romantic relationship, and we have fair amount of evidence to back us up. And Roddenberry- and others involved with the show- haven’t exactly been discouraging us. *cough* “We certainly felt the affection was sufficient for that” *cough* You interpret it a different way, and there is nothing wrong with that. I’m not going to tell you what to think. But don’t act like you have all the answers when you don’t. Don’t talk down to me just because you disagree with my opinion. It’s incredibly rude, disrespectful, and a little disgusting. Get over yourself.
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